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    Colors to mix with white?

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    Utah123
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    Colors to mix with white?

    Post  Utah123 on Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:14 pm

    I have four pure white pigeons. But since I don't do weddings I was thinking about getting a pigeon with a diffenent color base to mix with the whites. 2 of my four are a pair. And the other two are both cocks so I was thinking about getting a hen for one of them. How do you make a grizzle coloring?

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    Re: Colors to mix with white?

    Post  Mary Of Exeter on Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:44 pm

    Do your white birds have black eyes, or another color? Your whites may actually be grizzles, which would make it a lot easier. If not, you'll have to get a grizzle to make a grizzle.

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    Re: Colors to mix with white?

    Post  Mary Of Exeter on Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:47 pm

    Well from your avatar they do look black. In that case it isn't grizzle causing the white, but rather something like pied/splash gone to the extreme, or recessive white. So back to what I said, grizzle mates would be best if that's what you want Very Happy

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    Re: Colors to mix with white?

    Post  Utah123 on Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:58 pm

    Yeah, I think they are black or a dark blue or something. If I mixed them with like a blue bar what do you think would happen. Would the blue bar have more domince over the white?

    I have seen pics of pure white and black mixed and that made a pigeon that kind of had coloring like a cow :lol: !

    But the guy I bought them from said that they were pure white.

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    Re: Colors to mix with white?

    Post  Mary Of Exeter on Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:43 am

    If you mated them to a blue bar, chances are you'll end up with blues (or possibly red, if that's what the recessive white is covering up) and probably some pied or splashed birds.

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    Re: Colors to mix with white?

    Post  Utah123 on Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:47 am

    How are grizzles bred?

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    Re: Colors to mix with white?

    Post  Mary Of Exeter on Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:54 am

    Gotta have the grizzle gene to make a grizzle. If the grizzle gene is present, the bird looks grizzled. So it's really easy to tell if they have it, haha. Heterozygous birds will look salt and peppered, but homozygous grizzles will be almost or all white. Here's what you should expect from pairings
    http://www.slobberknockerlofts.com/color_chart/grizzle/

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    Re: Colors to mix with white?

    Post  Desert Fire on Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:57 am

    Utah123 wrote:How are grizzles bred?


    First you get a cock and then a hen...or is that, FIRST a hen, then a cock?? Wink Wink

    (Sorry, Utah, I just couldn't resist!) Smile



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    Re: Colors to mix with white?

    Post  Utah123 on Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:58 am

    They look good, but I would think it would look cool if there was a blue bar with white splashed into it. :lol:

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    Re: Colors to mix with white?

    Post  Mary Of Exeter on Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:05 am

    Well then get your whites some blue mates and see what happens Very Happy
    Chances are pretty high that you'll get a splashed BB.

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    Re: Colors to mix with white?

    Post  Utah123 on Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:07 am

    Yeah! Very Happy Pigeon genetics are kind of exciting.


    So how are pure whites grizzles. And if they are wouldn't they pass down that gene?

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    Re: Colors to mix with white?

    Post  Mary Of Exeter on Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:23 am

    Most pure white grizzles have orange eyes, not black. They are homozygous grizzles, so they carry two genes for it. So yes, they will pass it down if that happened to be what they are. In fact, if one parent is a 'white grizzle', all babies will be grizzled, but will be normal colored grizzles, not white. Putting two white grizzles together gets you babies that look like they do Smile

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    Re: Colors to mix with white?

    Post  Utah123 on Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:48 pm

    Okay thanks!

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    Re: Colors to mix with white?

    Post  Volkan on Sat Jul 17, 2010 4:12 am

    Hi,
    So grizzle means white with spots on?

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    Re: Colors to mix with white?

    Post  c.hert on Sat Jul 17, 2010 7:55 pm

    I guess thats what it means but I think all over the body. I have a grizzle roller female named Diamond who I love very much. They are neat looking birds. The post that you replied to is pretty old but who cares---I know what you mean Volkan.....c.hert

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    Re: Colors to mix with white?

    Post  Volkan on Sun Jul 18, 2010 1:48 am

    lol..thanks c.hert..didnt realise it was that old, I am new here.

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